This is not a review of the book, but a few musings on related themes.
I remember reading a question, a few years ago, which went like this:
"Why is it not possible to end a bubble without a crash? Why can't we have a soft landing?"
The answer is that, during the bubble, wealth is being destroyed but the market only realises this at the time of the crash, and adjusts the prices accordingly. Let's think about this in more detail.
Human's have various tools for understanding and describing the world around us. A big one is language. I can tell you about something that I saw -- I could for example describe a tree with large pink blossoms on it that I saw recently. I can never perfectly describe it to you though -- there are limitations at every stage, from the way my eyes see it, to the way my brain understands what my eyes are seeing, to the way I describe it to you, to the way you understand the words I say and align them with your prior knowledge to visualise the tree I'm describing. Although you might be able to imagine a tree that I'm describing, it will never be the same as what I'm trying to describe, which in turn will never be the same as the actual tree that I saw.
Thus, my ability to perceive something and communicate it to you is limited.
The Market is similar. It is a human tool for understanding and describing an aspect of the world in which we live. We use that tool to allocate resources: high prices indicate demand for a good or service and communicate to people that more of that needs to be provided. Low prices indicate an oversupply and that they should focus their energy elsewhere. It is important to remember, though, that the market is merely a human method of communication, and problems arise when the market does not accurately reflect what is actually going on in the real world (of course, it never describes perfectly what is happening, but the hope is that generally it is close enough).
Where the market diverges from reality, it misinforms people about the demand for various goods and services and results in a misallocation of capital (because all goods and services require some investment of time and/or resources, which is basically what capital is).
When there is a bubble, the market ceases to reflect the underlying reality, usually (as in the years leading up to 1929) because of speculation. Speculation occurs when people buy something, expecting it to increase in value so that they can sell it for a higher price later on. This is different from investment -- let's quickly see how.
If I invest money, say in a business, I am basically loaning them some money to get established and then owning a share of the resulting value that is created. Imagine a factory being built -- there are a lot of up-front expenses that occur before the factory makes any money. These are paid by investors, who then own a share in the completed factory and any profits it creates (the profits are returned to the shareholders as dividends).
In contrast to this, a speculator buys a share in the factory on the assumption that it will increase in value -- not necessarily because anything underlying has changed, but just because the speculator expects that other speculators will also want to buy that factory (this increase in price [though not necessarily the underlying value] is reflected as an increase in the share price).
The best example of a speculative bubble, was the Tulip Bubble that occurred in The Netherlands in the 1600s. The prices of tulip bulbs reached astronomical heights -- a pair of bulbs were reportedly traded for 12 acres of land. Needless to say, nothing had fundamentally changed about the value of tulips -- all buyers of tulips assumed that a "bigger fool" would come along later and pay more.
That is the nature of speculative bubbles. Eventually, the supply of "bigger fools" (with ready cash) ends and the whole thing comes crashing down. But this brings us back to the original question -- can we come down slowly, without the crash?
To answer this we need to think about what is occurring during the bubble: because of the excitement, and the high prices, capital is diverted towards the bubble. People remove capital from productive enterprises, and direct it towards speculative investments in the bubble. People take loans on their houses and direct it towards the bubble. In many cases, people cease their previous employment to work full-time as a speculator. This can drive consumption, because people feel wealthy, but it is important to understand that owning a share of a bubble is not actually valuable until the share is sold and the wealth is realised -- this is something that few people generally do. When the prices start to fall, people realise that they are not as wealthy as they thought, and they try to sell to realise their gains. Unfortunately, the supply of "bigger fools" quickly ceases and the prices plummet. Now we are left in a situation where people are heavily in debt (because they have taken loans to speculate in the bubble) businesses have had money removed from them and directed to the bubble, etc. In other words, the bubble has sucked a whole lot of value out of the economy and destroyed it.
This is why the crash cannot be avoided -- by the time the market crash occurs, the economy has already crashed and the market is playing catch-up.
Lessons (from the great crash):
- Very few people are aware of the bubble before it crashes. Those that are, and speak out about it, are heavily criticised. In the USA, people were describing the market as "fundamentally sound" right up to (and even during) the crash.
- The misallocation of resources that occur during the bubble cause the crash, and have effects that percolate right through the economy in non-obvious ways
- The crash affects people who were themselves not involved in speculation. This happens because after the crash there is no capital to get things done, consumer spending plummets, credit becomes expensive
- There will be appeals to authority to proclaim that the market is fine and prices will keep increasing. This can come from the highest political, industrial and academic leaders and should not be trusted.
Is this relevant in Australia?
I think it is. I think that we have a housing bubble, right now, that is causing the mis-allocation of resources (ie. the destruction of wealth) in our society. I don't think it is as bad as in 1928, but I think it is unsustainable. To see why, we need to compare the price of houses to income. Relative to income, houses have doubled in price over the last 60 years, and has gone up 50% since 1980. This has caused a lot of capital to be directed towards renovations, extensions, etc. A lot of money is spent on making houses "fancy", and this money is non-productive (ie. if we invested it in manufacturing or businesses it would be more useful). It's fine to spend some money on one's house to make it nicer to live in, but I think the current problem is that people are doing it now on the expectation that it will increase resale value of the house and hence they are spending much more (than what they would if the money was "just" being spent to make the house pretty, without hope of recouping it when the house was sold). That is the mis-allocation of resources, and that is the value that is being destroyed in Australia right now -- and will only become apparent once house prices start to fall to the long-term average of about 1/2 what they are now.What can't be concluded from a crash?
The bubble occurs when the market diverges sufficiently from reality that resources are misallocated. This misallocation causes the destruction of wealth and a subsequent crash. However, because the market has drifted from reality, you cannot necessarily make conclusions about reality (just that the market no longer reflected reality). For example, it seems possible that we're near the end of a North-American fracking bubble and that a crash looms. In that case, the market has misallocated resources to fracking companies that would have been better used elsewhere in the economy. This does not necessarily mean that fracking is inherently economically unsound, just that the speculative resources that have been put into it (right now) were economically unsound, and that the expectations of speculators (sometimes misnamed "investors") were unrealistic.However, it might be reasonable to conclude that tight oil is not a good investment when the price of oil is $30 / barrel. This is interesting, because perhaps if the price of oil had remained high, those companies might have remained solvent -- whether they could continue to operate when oil was $100 / barrel is now an open question. I suppose it goes to show that reality is complex, and even processes that might seem out-of-scope (eg. geopolitical changes affecting commodity prices) can show apparently-sound market responses to be unsound.
I've asserted everything here as fact, but of course it's fairly speculative (and I'm not an economist). I'd love people to poke holes in the arguments!
ReplyDeleteCheers, Angus
The argument that house prices are unsustainable is unjustified (not necessarily wrong though).
ReplyDeleteWhy must the ratio of incomes to house prices remain constant?
Are we talking about single incomes or combined household incomes?
Is it possible that household incomes of home owners is in fact in line? I can't be assed looking it up but I wonder if it shows a more constant ratio.
Over the time period examined global trade has expanded rapidly. From a pure economist's point of view this drives down commodity prices in a way that provides a net positive to the whole economy. Does this added value compensate for the extra percentage of income going towards rents/mortgages?
Hi Jesse,
ReplyDeleteThere are always plausible reasons to justify the status quo, and in fact many such reasons were trotted out in the lead-up to the 1929 crash -- reasons like "because of prohibition, we are now in a new era of labor productivity which is being reflected in the market" (I'm paraphrasing)
It is, of course, impossible to untangle all the possible factors affecting house prices, but some data are shown on wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_property_bubble
Think of the housing market like the stock market, and look at the price to earnings (P/E) ratio. Even with very low interest rates, rent will typically not cover a mortgage + expenses in Australia. To me, that says that at least part of the price is due to speculation.
Cheers, Angus
Hi Angus,
ReplyDeleteSorry to burst your bubble - alright that was an appalling pun, but still it was pretty funny don’t you reckon!
You write: "I don't think it is as bad as in 1928, but I think it is unsustainable". Here I beg to differ. The inequality of wealth in this country has become as bad as it was back in 1929 - and has been at no other time since. From my perspective this should be ringing alarm bells, but few people seem to care or notice.
No one seems to think that it is a problem that banks are the most profitable enterprise in the Australian economy. They also comprise the largest share of GDP for any industry. This is so weird because they don’t actually produce anything, so my gut feeling is that measures of GDP have been out of whack for quite a long while now. This situation is tolerated because they produce dividends and economic growth, but recall what I previously said about the production of real world goods and services.
Your quote: "Relative to income, houses have doubled in price over the last 60 years, and has gone up 50% since 1980." Sorry, here again I beg to differ. Back in the late 80's household income generally referred to one person in that household working. In the early 90's I clearly recall being able to purchase a house in the inner areas of Melbourne (sure it wasn't a flash or a gentrified area), was the equivalent of 3 years salary of a single person. How is that working out nowadays when most households have to have two incomes and to pay off what is essentially the same asset, it would take about 7 to 10 years.
The only way we’ve managed to get away with the mess that we’re currently in is because we managed to off shore a lot of our manufacturing to countries with cheaper wage rates and lax environmental regulations.
You write: “This misallocation causes the destruction of wealth and a subsequent crash”. Well that is not actually true. During the Great Depression factories weren’t actually destroyed. They were still there. The subdivisions in Florida didn’t disappear, they were still there. The roads weren’t suddenly ripped up. No, what happened was that the dysfunction in the banking sector (back then it was margin lending for shares and derivatives) flooded into the real economy of goods and services and whilst there were people who wanted to work, the buildings and machines were all there in place. With 30+% unemployment people couldn’t not afford to purchase the goods and services, therefore the goods and services weren’t manufactured, which meant that people weren’t employed and round and round it went until WWII arrived and the governments of the world pumped a lot of money and resources into the economies.
However, the main problem right now is that the trick of pumping money (which is not actually wealth, but people get mixed up with that concept) into the economies and debt has sky rocketed. Most of the developed world has debt levels well over 90% of GDP and that is generally considered to be the sign of a failed state. Has it worked so far? You bet it has. I’m amazed at the success given that policy has a limited lifespan and sooner or later the various governments will push it too far.
A lot of the recent moves by the Federal government look to me as if they are attempting to remove money from the real world economy of goods and services. The main impetus for pursuing that strategy, is I’m guessing, an attempt to maintain a low inflation rate. Look at the recent moves to lift the GST from 10% to 15% - where do you reckon that money would go?
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris,
ReplyDeleteI had a feeling you'd have a bit to say on this subject! ;-)
When I said I didn't think it was as bad as 1928, I meant the amount of speculation in house prices now vs the sharemarket then. I suppose I was trying to say that, although the housing market is inflated by speculation, it is not to the same degree as in 1928.
That's an interesting anecdote about house prices in Melbourne. I think we need to go on the stats with this one because there are so many factors at work. The wikipedia article says that the ratio of house prices to income was about 3 until 1985, went to 4 by the mid-90s and is at about 8 now. Your point about single- vs double-incomes is
Regarding misallocation causing wealth destruction, yes it's true that factories weren't destroyed. I think the wealth was destroyed because the market mislead them into producing the wrong things. That's what I meant about the property bubble leading people to over-invest in home improvement. If that home-improvement is predicated on continually-rising house prices which are themselves a bubble, then it represents wealth destruction (opportunity cost).
"With 30+% unemployment people couldn’t not afford to purchase the goods and services, therefore the goods and services weren’t manufactured"
I guess my question then is why did the stock market crash cause 30% unemployment? What is the mechanism by which a decline in the price of shares (remember, less than 10% of Americans at the time were speculators) would do that? I contend that those high-share prices led to poor company decisions that left them high-and-dry when the share prices fell, and that those decisions are effectively wealth destruction that occurred before the crash but only became apparent after the crash.
As I said, this is conjecture -- I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!
(I'd also like to read your thoughts on Jesse's comment and Jesse's on yours ;-)
Cheers, Angus
"Your point about single- vs double-incomes is good though, and I don't know those data" ;-)
ReplyDeleteHi Angus,
ReplyDeleteI’m at a very loose end this evening after a very slack day. Everyone needs a slack day every now and then.
I can’t respond to Jesse as she is a true believer in economics and all I reckon is watch this space and the future will be one of decline. Nuff said really.
Of course, what you are asking for in your first paragraph is for a quantifiable proof that the current housing bubble is not the same as the bubble in the share market way back in 1929. Well, they’re not the same assets as houses have a functional aspect whereas shares are an abstract concept. So no one can really make that claim as to whether the value judgement of better or worse applies because it is simply different. However, economic bubbles are the same whether they are tulip bubbles or South Sea bubbles or what have you. When people are holding negative equity – things will get ugly.
Fair enough. The simple answer is that the metrics changed and suddenly two people had to work where previously it was just one. The reality behind it all is that dollars are worth less now than they were then. The housing bubble is where we are channelling our inflationary impacts in the wider economy.
Here again I disagree with you loss of opportunity cost is not wealth destruction from my perspective anyway. Wealth destruction is sort of like the bush fire in Wye River on Christmas day when 114 houses were destroyed as well as huge swaths of forest. The assets in question were there one day and gone the next. The Germans printed their currency out of existence way back in the 1920’s and then introduced a new currency to replace it via a mechanism of taking a mortgage against the nations assets. Between one currency and its replacement – no actual assets in the physical sense were destroyed. That came later.
Ah, fair enough. I see your misunderstanding. You are believe that money is wealth. The reality is that money is a system of tokens that we use to exchange with each other for items of real world wealth (i.e. stuff). If you don’t believe me – imagine putting several economists on a desert island and providing them with a million dollars each. Despite having a million dollars each, the economists will quickly discover that they cannot eat or drink that money.
A fascinating subject. Well done for tackling it.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris,
ReplyDeleteReally appreciate the discussion here and your thoughtful responses.
" The housing bubble is where we are channelling our inflationary impacts in the wider economy." -- I need to ponder this one a bit, I think.
Hmm, I don't think I am confusing money with wealth. If what you say (about wealth destruction) is right, then what I don't understand is how speculation by a small proportion (less than 10%) of the population can crash the entire economy within days of the bubble bursting.
Regarding houses, we bought ours on the expectation that its long-term value is about 1/2 what we paid for it. For me it was a hard decision -- should we rent and wait, or buy a place and prepare. We went for the latter ;-)
Hope you enjoyed your restful day -- I reckon they'd be few on a smallholding!
ps. if you're into bluegrass -- do you know Gillian Welch and Dave Rawlins? We checked them out in Adelaide recently -- love their stuff!
Cheers, Angus
Hi Angus,
ReplyDeleteI've gotta be quick this morning.
Basically, you've have to understand the concept that if the value of an asset (and I'm loath to use the word investment in this case) falls and the person used debt to purchase that asset, then the banks (in the case of the Great Depression), can call on the investor and say: Pay up the difference between the value of the shares and the loan (usually the loan can be no more than 80% of the value of the shares). That is known as a margin call and you don’t want one of those.
So the share holder sells some of their shares to come up with the cash to pay the bank. If you are borrowing money to buy shares - you don't have cash or you wouldn’t need to borrow it. Nuff said. The investor pays the money to the bank to stop the margin calls.
All that selling into a falling market drives prices even further downwards. So the banks want more of their money back.
And around and around it goes, and where it stops nobody knows. And eventually nobody has any money to buy anything and the banks won't loan any money to anyone and the whole system freezes up solid. And people get chucked out of jobs, because no one has any money.
That's what happened - more or less in 1929.
In 2008, that didn’t happen because the governments started printing money and feeding it to the banks so they could continue loaning it out. In Australia I believe the government has provided a more or less get out jail free loan to the banks to the tune of about $300bn – and we the public have taken on that risk. And so the banks have continued loaning money.
Houses aren't an investment, they're there to keep the rain of your families heads. How we were conned into thinking otherwise is a whole nother story.
With the housing market, my best guess is that should prices fall, people will want to try and sell their homes because they will be left with what is known as negative equity (the loan is higher than the value of the house). And they still need to make the payments.
There won’t be margin calls on those loans, but people are currently using their houses as equity for loans – and that is in business too (what do you reckon business overdrafts and lines of credit are secured on?). Basically people will stop spending, because they’re currently doing that on debt. Thinking about an HP for a $50k SUV? That gear won’t be happening… maybe… No one really knows, but certainly the shock will be felt when it happens and the impacts will be profound. But it will happen sooner or later, no doubts about it. The question is when and how long the party can continue.
Cheers
Chris